I tried so hard to stay away…BUT MY DREAMS, THEY HAUNT ME!
Now I’m a sobbing mess over here watching Caryl vids. I MISSED YOU ALL SO FUCKING MUCH FUCK THIS SHIT IN OUR HEARTS WE KNOW WHO OUR QUEEN IS AND NO MATTER WHAT THESE FUCK HEADS DO SHE IS IN OUR HEARTS!
“Carol became a character that embodies the phrase, “fierce with reality”. Her years of living in abuse taught her to assess a situation, and potential threats, in a very short amount of time. Now she is unafraid to take action to get rid of those threats. In practical terms Carol’s entire marriage was preparing her to not just survive the zombie apocalypse but thrive in it. Interestingly as The Walking Dead women get stronger the men are starting to devolve and fall apart.”—
After Daryl revealed what he did before the “turn” and Merle’s role in that, it got me thinking back to season 3 when Glenn asked him “What do you want us to tell Carol?”. He said she’ll understand. Could it be that he already told Carol the stuff he revealed tonight and that’s why he knew she…
“But I think Melissa just blew me away. And I just think back to Season 3, where people felt they didn’t know what to do with Carol’s character. In the episode where T-Dog dies, there was talk she was going to die in that episode, not T-Dog. And look at what her character has become in the last season. It’s just amazing.”—Greg Nicotero on Carol’s development this season (x)
Do you have a favorite moment or a favorite episode from the second half of Season 4?
God, I have a lot. I would say the single most intense moment for me was when Carol finds Mika [dead, in “The Grove”]. I was watching the director’s cut and got to that scene where Lizzie is explaining to Carol, “Don’t worry. She’ll come back. I made sure I didn’t hurt her brain.” That really takes Lizzie away, and you stay on Carol, and she just sobs. I was watching it, and I literally started crying. I paused it, I called Melissa McBride and said, “You made me cry. I’m so moved and so awed by your talent that I cried when I watched the episode.” And she’s like, “Oh, my God! You have to call me and let me know what you think of the rest of the episode,” because I couldn’t even get past that moment. I needed to take a break. So then I watched the Lizzie moment, and then I watched Tyreese and Carol where she admits that she killed Karen and David, and then I had to call the director, and then I had to call Gimple and tell Scott that he wrote one of the best scripts I’ve ever read, and I’m astounded at how powerful it was. So I didn’t call Melissa back for like three hours, and she was like, “Hey, a—hole! You never called me back.” Because she wanted to hear how the rest of the episode was. I really do have to say that I think that moment, Melissa’s performance in that particular moment, was for me, hands down, the most powerful, the most moving moment of the season.
can i state the fact that the producers chose to separate carol from daryl suggests the importance of caryl??
you know how they like to separate people who are close to each other. for example, glenn from maggie, sasha from tyreese, maggie from beth, judith from the grimes,…
Aww damn it all to hell. I got feels. Again. Look out. Stand back everybody.
YES. All the yesses!! Caryl cannot be contained. It will only grow and become even more deep and meaningful than it was before. And when it finally explodes? All will fall down and know that Caryl just IS.
Along similar lines - I had started to write this out the other day and then… left it. I think I realized I’ve said it before. But:
Strangely enough, the blatant slate-wiping where it seemed everyone forgot Caryl ever existed - Carol’s exile and the multi-episode gap where we were kept hanging because Daryl didn’t know she was gone and no one wanted to tell him what was going on, the “deferred” conversation between D and Rick about what that all meant, the fact that neither C nor D mentioned each other after the prison fell, even the B episodes with all those reflections of past Caryl scenes - all of that makes me somehow MORE hopeful.
Because the huge echoing absence of Caryl just draws your attention to it. Every week they would Not Talk About It in various ways. And that’s not just my shipping goggles (although okay, yeah, that’s probably a significant part of it.)
I feel like things wouldn’t be so glaringly skewed if TPTB weren’t intentionally torturing us (the fans they know will hang in ‘til the bitter end - the shippers) by withholding, keeping us grabbing for tidbits. I think they meant what they said about “not even considering” B as a potential romantic pairing, but waved that under our noses just to keep people amped up.
I’m not saying I’m happy with about 85% of what they did with this season - I think the “Carol As Killer” storyline was abysmal and a waste of MMB (I can’t help but wonder - does she even get paid for episodes she doesn’t appear in?) but I am peculiarly optimistic for S5 at the moment.
Someone, please bookmark this and slap me with it when everything turns to shit come fall?
Bookmarked, but I’m hoping I can hug you in celebration instead.
Omg love this conversation so much! You all keep my hope alive! Love my carylers! And you’re right, they did separate the closest members of group from each other! I didn’t really think about it that way! :) thank ou for the feels!
“I’m also confused about why people would want their petitions and suggestions put into practice on a show. Television shows aren’t in the business of giving every viewer what they want; that’s the magic. There are ups and downs, and dramatic twists and turns that we don’t see coming. If writers suddenly dropped their plans and pandered to overzealous fans than what would television be? A predictable, boring mess.”—The Problematic Entitlement of Fans (x)
okay, so we’ve all established that we’d like to see the lines “stay safe” “nine lives, remember?” come back at the reunion over “sorry pookie” BUT there is always the chance that the pookie line is the one TPTB use instead. SO i’ve come up with a little scenario that would totally satisfy my…
I'd love to see Carol riding on a dark horse like she's about to charge into battle (or rescue our survivors, well Daryl.) Bonus points if the horse is rearing up on its hind legs. Super bonus points if she is shouting her battle cry, "Pooooooooooookieeeeeeeeee!"
"POOKIE!!!!" That would be freaking EPIC. O M G. Now this is in my head. Thank you so, so much! <3
“Our plan is to let this friendship evolve naturally and watch what happens when feelings start to emerge, ever so slowly, from one of them and how that begins to complicate things.”—Caroline Dries about Steroline (x)